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Old 08-04-2016, 09:18 AM   #181
CliffFletcher
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Well, there goes any chance I'lll visit Turkey.
It's a shame. I've been there twice, spending 5 weeks there altogether. Visited every region except the far east. Beautiful country. Remarkably hospitable people. Great food. So much history.

We can't blame this on colonialism. Or on Iraq or Bush. Or poverty. The Turkish people have turned their back on modernity and liberalism. We really need to figure out why Islamic societies seem incompatible with liberal social and economic values.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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