[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

My favourite part of the Bible is where it says "an unborn fetus is a child." I also like the part where it says "gay marriage is bad." I can't remember which part that is--maybe you can help me out, Calgaryborn?

Actually the Mosaic law tells us an unborn child is a human being. If a man accidentally hurts a pregnant women and she gave birth prematurely he was to be punished. If the child is stillborn then it was a life for a life. We are not under the Mosaic covenant but, the same God who instituted the Mosaic Covenant gave us the covenant of grace we are under today. If He considered an unborn child as a life then; He does today. The Mosaic covenant also called for the death of Sodomites. Again we are not under that covenant but, God's opinion of sodomy won't change.

But regarding marriage both the Old Testament and the New Testament identifies a marriage as a man and woman becoming one. Regarding the legal institution of marriage. Governments have traditionally held the family as a special institution that has had tax and other benefits to help it succeed.
When marriages succeed they more often then not produce the next generation of a country's citizens and in raising them passes on the values and traditions of their nation/community.

All of this seems to be somewhat beside the point. This thread, like a number of others, has degenerated into a discussion of U.S. politics, which is a bit more complicated than people are giving it credit for being. But if you want to see "arrogance," then I'd point you to someone who pretends to have access to true knowledge of the divine will. A Fundamentalist is someone who has forgotten about the one constant rule in religious and philosophical thinking: that humans are imperfect--and that this imperfection extends to our understanding of the nature of the cosmos and of God.

This thread is a discussion of U.S. politics. As far as fundamentalists forgetting that humans and their understanding are imperfect: I don't know where you get that. That fact is a Christian doctrine. Man is a fallen creature and left to his own understanding will fail. What you have a problem with is that fundamentalists are unwilling to surrender their own understanding based upon scriptures for your own ideology and beliefs.

The point is: no-one is telling you how to interpret scripture, or how it should be important in your life.

Actually people are telling me how to interpret scriptures including you. Just look below:

I guarantee you don't follow every part of the scripture: my guess is that you eat pork, and don't mind sharing a tent with a woman who's menstruating.But more importantly, just because you read a certain book doesn't make you a more moral individual than anyone else. Morality comes from an exploration and an acceptance of your inner self, and from empathy for fellow human beings. It pretty much never comes from intolerance and hatred, which are the most morally empty philosophies that you can get. If you think "God hates X" is a true interpretation of Christian theology--or if you believe in a religious practice that includes hatred of others--then I'm sorry to say that you've been duped, because that's not Christianity at all.

I have never said I hated Sodomites. I said God hates sodomy. He would have them turn from that sin. God hates adultery as well. Their both sins.