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Originally Posted by peter12
I don't know what you are talking about at all. Obama was influenced by the Tea Party?
Sure, the Kochs are influential, but they aren't the Dark Forces of Mordor either. The culture has moved on. They are remarkably discordant.
You keep capitalizing Libertarian? Are you talking about the party or the body of theory influenced by the work of post-war economists?
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Yes, the Tea Party influenced Obama and his agenda. Have you slept through the past four years and missed all of the crazy obstructionism?
I don't have a clue what you are talking about. The only times I have capitalized libertarian is in the context of the political party. You are sitting there talk I got about classical libertarianism and what an impact it has had on the United States, and I'm telling you what libertarianism actually is in the United States. It is vastly different from the textbook definition. It is a different beast all together. You know, just like conservatism in Canada varies greatly from conservatism in the US. They are different animals, and any Canadian that has moved down here to experience politics first hand will tell you the same thing.
This is what always kills me about these debates. There's a group of people that think they have a clue about American politics because they follow it on CNN or the Internet. Then there is the group of people that actually live in the middle of it, experience it, and even work in it. But those people are the crazy ones. It's the ones from afar that know better and can tell you how the political system works. Or that America doesn't have a racism problem (my personal favorite at the moment). I wish it ran the way you guys see it, but being in the real trenches, having a real vote, and living with the outcomes informs a much different perspective.
Man, I can't wait for our new Silicon Valley overloads to take over from the fossils running the show now, because the suitable we're living through now is a joke.