[TheAlpineOracle]

I also think the Blue Jays (Rogers) way of nickel and dimming most aspects of their baseball operations does a hell of a lot more harm than good. They save short term but they don't long term. You're going to have a hell of a hard time convincing a player to take a little hometown discount or a little less term, when you've spent years before that fighting with them and all their friends around them on compensation and other issues (of which there are many documented instances including last year's suit gate).

I think we are seeing that now with Edwin and Bautista. They clearly like Toronto, their teammates, and are on a winning team, but they don't seem to have any level of respect for upper management/ownership and see this as their chance for an FU right back at them. They are going out of their this year to lay the path down that they wanted to stay here but management wouldn't pay (especially Bautista). I don't think their stance would be as heavy handed as it is if they had any amount of respect for ownership.


I'm having a hard time thinking about any other time where a team had a couple of superstars producing at high rates who are publicly lobbying to stay with the team and you know there's a really good chance that isn't going to happen and they are just trying to get the blow back not on them.