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Old 07-18-2016, 09:43 AM   #129
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And said nothing as he deconstructed the democracy. This isn't a conspiracy, it's discussing open facts
What could the West do? Erdogan was popularly elected, then dismantled the institutions of democracy with the support of most Turks. Secular, pro-Western Turks are a minority. People need to understand that what we consider essential pillars of democracy are not embraced by most people in the world. A free press is seen as backbiting and toxic. Judges who don't hew to traditional religious mores are regarded as leading society into depravity. Some Turks are deeply dismayed at what Erdogan is doing. More are cheering him on.

Turkey has rejected the West and Western institution. It sucks. Turkey was once the great hope for a secular and pro-Western democracy in the Muslim world. But it's better to let the popular will play out than try to install or prop-up a pro-Western regime against the wishes of the people. That hasn't exactly worked out well in places like Iran and Egypt.
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