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Originally Posted by sun
Thanks for the quotes, but your math is off. Average is $6.03MM.
When Kane/Toews signed their identical 5 year extensions, they were coming off a season where Toews scored 69P in 82GP, Kane 70P in 80GP.
Career totals were:
Toews 139P in 166GP, third youngest captain in league history, plays the tougher position.
Kane - 155P in 168GP, Calder winner.
These guys signed identical contracts because their value was identical. I think Gaudreau is definitely more valuable than Monahan, though I respect the argument that Monny plays the tougher position, more experienced, etc. I think it's possible they sign the same contract, but unlikely. Monny is a young #1 center, but Johnny is a superstar. If they want the AAV to be the same, then the term will be different and the I assume the Flames won't want that.
As an aside, Kane and Toews have the SAME AGENT.
Johnny says "if it were up to us", but it ain't and he admits as such.
Splitting the difference is a compromise between two parties that want different things. They both lose. I want $100, he wants to give me $80, we meet in the middle and I get $90. I lose, he loses.
Johhny deserves $8x8, Monny deserves $7x8 (for example), they meet in the middle at $7.5. Johnny loses $0.5MM and Monny wins $0.5MM. Why?
If they sign the same contract, it doesn't really affect us. We'll be overpaying (slightly) for Monahan and underpaying (slightly) for Gaudreau. ~$15MM/year either way. But the total 8 year contract value for the two players - Monahan wins a few mill and Gaudreau loses a few mill. I don't think Johnny's agent is gonna go for that.
Is Johnny worth more? I believe so, which is why I believe he'll earn more, one way or another.
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Damn it, missed a number.
Either way, only one guy on this list got way above the average, so I'm still not quite seeing how Johnny is going to get 7.5m. Numbers wise, yes, Johnny "deserves" 8 million, but I think most of these guys deserved much more than they got. Even if we say Johnny gets the average +10% and if Sean deserves a million less than him, splitting the difference would get them, exactly, $6,500,000 each
Between the actual averages and numbers and the going rate, I don't know how Johnny will have a solid case of commanding $8,000,0000. I could see it happening if he was in the league for 5+ years putting up consistent numbers, but he's still technically just breaking into the league and hasn't had enough time to completely prove himself yet. (No I'm not suggesting his numbers will plummet)
Anyways, Sean and Johnny have the final say in this whole thing, not their agents, so I really would not be shocked if they didn't care about, in comparison to what they're going to be making, a small amount of money