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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Is that true?

Jon Gillies
Freshman - 18 - GAA 2.08 - SP 0.931
Sophmore - 19 - GAA 2.16 - SP 0.931
Junior - 20 - GAA 2.01 - SP 0.930

Thatcher Demko
Freshman - 18 - GAA 2.24 - SP - 0.919
Sophmore - 19 - GAA 2.19 - SP - 0.925
Junior - 20 - GAA 1.88 - SP - 0.935

Um, you're a full eleven months off. Demko's freshman season, he was 17 and turned 18 in December. Gillies' freshman season, he was 18 and turned 19 in January. Gillies' freshman season should be compared to Demko's sophomore season, and Gillies' sophomore season should be compared to Demko's Junior season going by age / post-draft years.

Connor Hellebuyck
Freshman - 19 - GAA - 1.37 - SP - 0.925
Sophmore - 20 - GAA - 1.79 - SP - 0.941

Hellebuyk's numbers are staggering but he was a year older in his freshman year than the other two.

Hold on a minute. Hellebuyck put up a .952 not a .925 in his freshman year.

Second, Hellebuyck was 19 for his entire freshman season, but Gillies turned 19 halfway into his freshman season as well. It's disingenuous to say they were a completely different age as both finished their freshman seasons as nineteen year olds. Gillies also never approached those numbers even as a 21-year-old Junior.

Connor's back up in his 2nd year also put up steller numbers too. Doug Carr put up a GAA of 1.80 and SP of 0.936, so it's slightly disingenuous to suggest Gilies numbers are due to a "detail-oriented" team and Hellebuyk's aren't.

Never said Hellebuycks are not "due" to a detail oriented team. They are however a full percentage point ahead of Gillies which is not a small gap. However your comment about Doug Carr throwing up a .936 is a good reason why I'm simply not putting a lot of stock into NCAA stats. Pro stats are a lot more telling, and Gillies has seven pro games to his resume.

To suggest Gillies put up average numbers is ridiculous.

I did not suggest that. In fact I said outright his numbers are above average in the very post you quoted. It seems your strange little personal vendetta with me has you failing to even read my posts correctly.

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

As for not dominating like the other two, during their two over lapping seasons, 2012-2013 and 2013-2014 both Gillies and Hellebuyk were consistently at the top of GAA and SP, I'll let you look for yourself. Both were dominating goalies at the College level.

2012-13, Hellebuyck was 1st in GAA and 1st in SV% while Gillies was 9th in SV% and 15th in GAA

http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/d...men/2012-2013/

2013-14, Hellebuyck was 1st in GAA and 1st in SV% while Gillies was 4th in SV% and 12th in GAA. Demko's equivalent season (2015-16) he was 4th in SV% and 7th in GAA.

http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/d...men/2013-2014/

There's a gap there between Hellebuyck and the other two. It's a gap between a bonafide "clear best goalie in league" and a "really good goalie relative to league". And perhaps Demko is closer to Gillies than he is to Miller or Hellebuyck, but Demko also had an elite WJC where Gillies' WJC was forgettable.