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Originally Posted by doctajones428
I will admit "a small fraction" was an over exaggeration on my part, but, lets look at some numbers (Keep in mind, the earliest extension on this list was in 2011, when the salary cap was 13.6m lower than it is now.)
Gaudreau - .89PPG - ???
Hall - (At the time) .84PPG - $6M
Eberle - (At the time) .8PPG - $6M
Tarasenko - (At the time) .75 PPG - $7.5M
Tavares - (At the time) - .75PPG - $5.5M
Hopkins - (At the time) .74PPG - $6M
Benn - (At the time) .73PPG - $5.25M
Forsberg - .72 PPG - $6M
Couture - (At the time) .72PPG - $6M
Duchene - (At the time) .72PPG - $6M
MacKinnon - .70 PPG $6.3M
Monahan - .67 PPG - ???
Scheifele - .64 PPG $6.125
Seguin - (At the time) .63 PPG - $5.75M
Barkov - .62 PPG - $5.9M
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AVERAGE - 0.72 PPG - $5,300,000
Taylor Hall is the closest comparable on this list, .12PPG above average netted him an extra $700,000. So theoretically, Johnny's extra .5PPG on Hall should earn him roughly another $400,000 on top of that ($1,100,000)
$5,300,000
+
$1,100,000
=
$6,400,000
To be quite honest, I am surprised the average was so low, and felt Johnny deserved atleast $8 million per season, but that just simply isn't the going rate for these first extensions
Also:
http://calgaryherald.com/sports/hock...udreau-monahan
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...-contract-rfa/
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Thanks for the quotes, but your math is off. Average is $6.03MM.
When Kane/Toews signed their identical 5 year extensions, they were coming off a season where Toews scored 69P in 82GP, Kane 70P in 80GP.
Career totals were:
Toews 139P in 166GP, third youngest captain in league history, plays the tougher position.
Kane - 155P in 168GP, Calder winner.
These guys signed identical contracts because their value was identical. I think Gaudreau is definitely more valuable than Monahan, though I respect the argument that Monny plays the tougher position, more experienced, etc. I think it's possible they sign the same contract, but unlikely. Monny is a young #1 center, but Johnny is a superstar. If they want the AAV to be the same, then the term will be different and the I assume the Flames won't want that.
As an aside, Kane and Toews have the SAME AGENT.
Johnny says "if it were up to us", but it ain't and he admits as such.
Splitting the difference is a compromise between two parties that want different things. They both lose. I want $100, he wants to give me $80, we meet in the middle and I get $90. I lose, he loses.
Johhny deserves $8x8, Monny deserves $7x8 (for example), they meet in the middle at $7.5. Johnny loses $0.5MM and Monny wins $0.5MM. Why?
If they sign the same contract, it doesn't really affect us. We'll be overpaying (slightly) for Monahan and underpaying (slightly) for Gaudreau. ~$15MM/year either way. But the total 8 year contract value for the two players - Monahan wins a few mill and Gaudreau loses a few mill. I don't think Johnny's agent is gonna go for that.
Is Johnny worth more? I believe so, which is why I believe he'll earn more, one way or another.