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Old 07-09-2016, 09:23 PM   #339
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Us vs Them. We the Good and Righteous. They the Stupid and Unclean. We the Oppressed and They the Oppressor. We who I defend. They who I attack.
These are two completely different ideas and your grouping of them together under the banner of 'evil tribalism' is evidence of your lack of study or deep-thinking on the topic.

The fundamental thing you seem to be missing about what you deride as 'identity politics' is that those who participate in these movements are working to overcome the tribalism you so despise. The LGBT movement, Black Lives Matter, Feminism, are all coming from the premise that either gays, or blacks, or women have been excluded and deserve to be included.

When people say "Black Lives Matter" there is an unspoken too at the end of the statement. When the Pride parade marches, the implication is that LGBT people can be proud too. When Feminists point out rape culture and inequities they're saying women matter too.

If you truly believed that tribalism was the dangerous force you claim it to be, and you understood these movements at anything more than a pop-culture level, you would be a feminist, and a supporter of BLM, and march in the Pride parade.

You're fond of suggesting reading material, go read Between the World and Me, A Room of One's Own, and The Velvet Rage and see if anything changes.
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