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Old 07-09-2016, 07:40 AM   #317
CliffFletcher
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Racism will always be alive and well and should be at least acknowledged as the norm... interesting...
Please don't twist my words. I've said it's a human universal. And like other negative human traits, it can never be eradicated, only reduced.

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Yet you believe identity politics, a "siren call to tribalism" (a older, deeper, and more common part of humanity world wide), is folly, should be done away with, and exist simply because of a "backsliding" to a more communal state, defying liberal progress.
It's all of a kind. We're wired to put people into groups. Us. Them. People to be trusted. People to be feared. We've recognized some of these ways we group and 'Other' people is bad. But we absolutely revel in other ways (as sports fan, we know that better than most. But at least sports tribalism is relatively benign).

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It's interesting that you find the inherent negativity of racism more acceptable as part of life than you do the potential positivity of evolutionary tribalism.
Where did I say it was acceptable? I don't think murder is acceptable. But I do not believe humanity will ever eradicate murder, short of genetic manipulation.

Here's a post someone made on another forum that expresses frustration with tribalism, in the context of the Dallas shooting:

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Can't wait for the inevitable "taking of sides" where one side pretends gunning down cops in the street is okay while the other side pretends gunning down black folks in traffic stops is okay.

Also can't wait for a complicit media to further both of these angles just for more TV ratings and page-clicks.

America: We're not so good at "real solutions" anymore. Just a lot of sound & fury while we beat the tribal drum for "our side" and making sure "the other side" is as insulted, marginalized, and beat down as possible. For us, that's enough. To hell with solving problems, just make sure "they" don't "win."
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