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Old 07-08-2016, 07:00 PM   #299
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Originally Posted by peter12 View Post
Well, the Ferguson Riots were nothing compared to Detroit 1967. They called in the National Guard - a Guardsman was killed. More insanity ensued.

Although, I do think that 2016 is probably more analogous to 1968 than a lot of people want to admit. We are going through tumultuous times, and there are very real things at stake.
I think one of the biggest problems in the US is the attitude from many white people that Racism Is Over. Racism hasn't really changed all that much--and it isn't all that long ago that states wouldn't even allow interracial marriage. Both of my parents were alive in 1968--my father was out of high school already. They're in their mid-60s. The Civil Rights movement wasn't some ancient event--many of the people who fought for (and against) that revolution are still alive today.

We haven't really changed that dramatically in 50 years.


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Accurate description on his part.
The actual BLM movement isn't anti-police. It is anti-police brutality. No one is arguing about the police using deadly force on the shooter last night--clearly that force was warranted. When deadly force is necessary--that's one thing. But there are all too many instances of "shoot first, ask questions later" happening with police in the US right now.

No one wants to stop the police from doing their actual job--stopping criminals and protecting those in their jurisdiction--but by the same token, the belief is that those officers can still do their job without so regularly resorting to deadly force.

And really--do you honestly want a bunch of civilians running toward an active gunman?


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Isn't this the whole point of the second amendment, to allow citizens to fight the tyrannical state?
Hit the nail on the head. This is what the Second Amendment looks like in action, NRA. This man feels that the police in this country are a tyrannical force that he needed to protect himself from. Thus he used his weapons to make the point.

NRA/2A types would never admit it, but the only difference between this and the Bundy crew is that this guy actually fired shots and didn't just threaten. Bundy's men also had weapons trained on law enforcement to demonstrate their 2A rights.
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