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Old 07-06-2016, 07:16 PM   #718
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Originally Posted by jammies View Post
It might be an oversimplification to say all Leave voters are ignorant grubby morons, but it'd be fair to say that the clownshoes vote was solidly Leave, thereby providing the margin of victory and more. You can be thoughtful and rational about your politics and share those views with mumbling twits and yokels - there is no guarantee that an uninformed and baseless opinion can't, by happy accident, provoke the same voting behaviour in a plebiscite as an informed and logical stance, especially if it's regarding a very straightforward question of "Yes" or "No", or, in this case, "Stay" or "Leave".

As far as claims of "experts" being so often wrong, and thus distrusted by the masses, I think that's more a function of expertise being mistaken for absolute accuracy in areas where such is simply not possible. People want simple answers to simple questions, even when the "simple" questions are just caricatures of the complex issues underneath, and the simple answers are subsequently meaningless, and serve only as grudge points to save up against the poindexters when they don't pan out.
But then you also have a lot of "remain" supporters that couldn't care less about working class or poor people problems and only see the EU as the best way to keep themselves wealthy and give more power to corporate interests and indentured labour. Maybe they are not crazies or "clown shoes", but it's fair to say that both sides have their fair share of supporters with questionable ulterior motives. Then you also have the ones that tried to sell a "leave" vote as telling the terrorists they won, like some George Bush throwbacks.

The simple fact is that a large number of people regardless of political stance are dumb, selfish and ignorant. You just have to hope that they negate each other somehow.
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