QUOTE=rubecube;5828879]I think my main issue with Cliff's ideology here is that white liberalism has never been naturally inclusive to all. Maybe in theory it was (even that's debatable going back to Locke, etc.), but it never has been in practice. Marginalized groups have always had to force their way into the discussion, and civil disobedience has generally been the best avenue to do so. Telling marginalized groups how they should try to get involved in the conversation may not be explicitly racist, homophobic, etc., but it can often unintentionally have the elements of the dominant/privileged class attempting to dictate terms to the oppressed/underprivileged class.[/QUOTE]
