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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I'm white, upper-middle class, ignorant, and liberalish too, Pete. I'm not a radical seer, and I know for a fact you are better than dismissing my world view as some attempt at outing myself as some unique radical. If you're not better than that, then the multiple PMs we've exchanged, even the ones where you praised the struggle of the gay community, where we've discussed things in context of your religious beliefs, were basically meaningless garbage. And that would sadden me.
My opinion is going to be different then a few posters regarding "identity politics". Obviously.
You get straight indignant when non-religious folk talk about religion in a way you don't like. But a gay person can't share their opinion on a identity politics issue directly related to the gay community without being labelled as some wannabe radical? Good to know.
I got called a jerk for responding to being called a regressive liberal who is a danger to a converged society, and a pompous radical seer for giving an opinion as a gay person on a gay politics issue. Fun, thanks you two.
But also, a genuine thanks to Cliff for being able to disagree with a bit of snarl and still not taking it personal.
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Well, Pepsi, you are obviously distorting my views a little bit here, and I don't think it's very fair.
I spent quite a bit of time and effort on page 2 of this thread explaining why I don't agree with BLM's tactics. I did so with a clear nod towards the history of the gay movement, and its evolution away from confrontation, and antagonism, so I don't appreciate it when I am told that I can't speak my piece because I am somehow entitled or I don't understand gay politics.
Clearly, I do understand gay politics a little bit - for personal reasons that I will not disclose. I can't go through all that effort just to have it dismissed as "oh you are just a straight, middle-class homophobe" and you just cannot understand what I am going through.
As you have noted, I am very sympathetic, and indeed, appreciative of the gay movement's struggles over the last 30 years. I voice this often in my personal life, and in my social circles. For a white, Christian, hetero-married person to do this should speak to the success of Pride inclusiveness, and not to the divisive tactics of activist aggression emulated by BLM.