AC, why are you posting HERO charts for one season? They're supposed to take a representative sample - past 3 years, or less if the player hasn't been around that long. If you do it the way you just did, all you can say is, in the areas covered by HERO, "X was better than Y last year"; you're in no position to say "X is better than Y".
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
You think about numbers. Even your corsi arguments are about numbers. Numbers do not define everything man. There is more to a hockey players game than how many points he puts up.
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I'm well aware. But the goal is to outscore the other team. What Hall does on the ice promotes that end better than the guys mentioned, and the rationales given for alternatives are pure fantasy. Like, completely divorced from reality.
Steen, for example. I'm not saying Steen isn't a good winger, but he was one of the worst players on the Blues in terms of shot suppression for the last 3 years, and yet Flash just called the guy a defensive stalwart Selke candidate, apparently on the basis of one seven game playoff series. Meanwhile his scoring rate at evens is just behind Jussi Jokinen. Yeah, those are numbers. They reflect the results the guy managed to achieve when he was on the ice.
You can't just say things that have no connection to what actually happens on the ice and expect them to carry any weight. You're entitled to your opinion about who the better player is, but when it's based on nothing, it's worthless to anyone else. It's just making noises.
Anyway this isn't worth my energy to keep litigating.