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Yes, when it comes to city planning I have more faith in the city than in a hockey team. To believe otherwise would be obtuse. Much like I have more faith in a hockey team to run a hockey team than I do the city. Do you believe the Flames are superior city planners than the City?
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The hockey team is not trying to plan anything. They have simply presented an image or an idea in its most basic form as a starting point. They are not pretending or attempting to design or develop the buildings surrounding the proposed arena site.
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I have read this many time times including when it was released. There was an even better version that was hosted on the Sun-Alta community web site that had plans for future West Village that included connection with Sun-Alta.
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Compare that to the Flames renderings which plunk an arena down on top of Bow and CAD in some fake buildings. It immediately becomes apparent who wants to build an arena and who wants to build a city.
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Don't take the renderings so literal. As I mentioned above it is simply a very rough concept of what a dense area
could look like. They are not proposing or offering to design the surrounding areas.
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As for timelines, I don't actually know. A phasing strategy is mentioned in the ARP but no specific timelines (unless I missed them). Would need Bunk or someone to comment on that.
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The East Village plan was approved in March 2005. It took years of planning and design prior to that. The city should most certainly be allocating resources to planning the West Village now, as it will be decade before any of it comes to fruition. East Village should be well over 80% complete by then and Calgary should still be growing and looking to expand dense inner city development.
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I've said before though, that even if CalgaryNEXT lined up with the West Village timing perfectly I still think it is a bad plan from a city planning perspective. I want the arena on or near the Stampede for multiple reasons:
-Near a bunch of parking
-On or near two LRT lines (new Green line being one)
-Connection over the train tracks helps the East Village even more
-Nearer existing entertainment districts on 10th and 17th
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-Not everyone drives to the game and people would adapt. to the 2000 less stalls on site. I have not driven to an event at Stampede grounds in 10 years of living here. How do everyone seem attend Stampede so seamlessly with all the parking gone?
-I agree on the double train line access as a benefit.
-What connection over the train tracks?
-Would East/Village & Stampede/BMO, not to mention all the other theaters and library, be putting too much arts and entertainment in the same place? Conceivably there could be 5 separate events going on at the same time with a few block radius?