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Originally Posted by rubecube
This really isn't the thread for this, but aren't you (like me) one of the people who thinks we should call a spade a spade when it comes to Islam? Why then should we be coddling bigots?
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Let's look at the subset of people who voted to leave solely, or almost entirely, on the basis of immigration issues.
- Some of them are actual bigots who are motivated by actual bigotry.
- Some of them are bigots, but in addition to bigotry, have some valid concerns about immigration that should at least be acknowledged and discussed.
- Many of them are not bigots, and have some valid concerns, and are justifiably getting pretty sick of being dismissed as bigots, along with their concerns.
People seem to be unable or unwilling to tell the difference between these three groups and just treat them all as essentially the same thing. Frankly I think a lot of it is laziness; e.g. "we're opposed to them, if we just dismiss them as racist we don't have to engage with any part of anything any of them have to say, so let's just pretend it's all racism, overt or disguised, and move right along."
Maybe it's optimistic of me, but I think if everyone actually conceded that some of these alleged problems in fact might be real problems that need addressing, but that "there's a better solution to the problem you're worried about available to us rather than quitting the EU and tanking the economy, and here's that solution", a bunch of those in the third category (and maybe even some in the second) could have been persuaded to vote Remain.