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PepsiFree · 06-23-2016, 11:01 AM

Well, the reason why people who dismiss science as just an alternate belief system do so is because a fundamental lack of understanding about what science is.

A belief does not require evidence.
Science does.

A belief can be sure.
Science rarely can.

A belief is the believing of something to be true or false.
Science is the presentation of evidence to suggest the link of something to truth, or to suggest there is no link.

The problem that occurs is that even people who choose science and reject a belief system can be very stupid, simple people. These people are the ones who sort of "ruin science" for what it is, which is inexact and constantly evolving.

A believer might say:
"God exists" or "I think God exists"

A scientist in the same situation might say:
"There is evidence to suggest that the existence of God is possible, if not probable given the current information at hand." And then proceed to cite the peer reviewed studies which the statement is based on.

Of course, they wouldn't say that because there isn't scientific evidence for it, but it's just an example.

When someone says something like "Cigarettes/red meat/asbestos causes cancer, it's proven," they are being foolish. If you ask a scientist, they would tell you "There is no concrete evidence that ______ causes cancer, but there is a significant link between _______ and the incidence of several types of cancers of the human body." (And then cite the peer reviewed studies).

Science is not a belief system, it requires you to believe absolutely nothing. Science is a series of studies and tests that show the likelihood of a hypothesis. It rarely "proves" anything at all, but it NEVER requires faith to accept. Suggesting otherwise shows zero understanding about science itself, which makes it obvious why one would be unsure about "science". How can you be sure of something you don't even have a basic fundamental understanding of?

06-23-2016, 11:01 AM	#397
PepsiFree Participant Join Date: Jul 2015 Exp:	What happens when we die? Well, the reason why people who dismiss science as just an alternate belief system do so is because a fundamental lack of understanding about what science is. A belief does not require evidence. Science does. A belief can be sure. Science rarely can. A belief is the believing of something to be true or false. Science is the presentation of evidence to suggest the link of something to truth, or to suggest there is no link. The problem that occurs is that even people who choose science and reject a belief system can be very stupid, simple people. These people are the ones who sort of "ruin science" for what it is, which is inexact and constantly evolving. A believer might say: "God exists" or "I think God exists" A scientist in the same situation might say: "There is evidence to suggest that the existence of God is possible, if not probable given the current information at hand." And then proceed to cite the peer reviewed studies which the statement is based on. Of course, they wouldn't say that because there isn't scientific evidence for it, but it's just an example. When someone says something like "Cigarettes/red meat/asbestos causes cancer, it's proven," they are being foolish. If you ask a scientist, they would tell you "There is no concrete evidence that ______ causes cancer, but there is a significant link between _______ and the incidence of several types of cancers of the human body." (And then cite the peer reviewed studies). Science is not a belief system, it requires you to believe absolutely nothing. Science is a series of studies and tests that show the likelihood of a hypothesis. It rarely "proves" anything at all, but it NEVER requires faith to accept. Suggesting otherwise shows zero understanding about science itself, which makes it obvious why one would be unsure about "science". How can you be sure of something you don't even have a basic fundamental understanding of? Last edited by PepsiFree; 06-23-2016 at 11:38 AM.