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Old 06-22-2016, 09:34 AM   #583
Lanny_McDonald
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy View Post
Sigh. Well, it was YOUR claim, not mine.....I despise when people do that.

You make a claim, back it up.

Anyways, like I said, next season would be tough fitting in Bobrovsky, but starting with the 2017/18 season the Flames cap is in a much better spot.

It's hard to look ahead that far, especially with Monahan, Gaudreau and Colborne deals still not done. But here goes.

1. Assuming taking on Bob while moving up to get Puljujarvi.
2. Healthy long term deals for Gaudreau/Monahan this summer
3. Decent bridge for Colborne this summer
4. Healthy raise and bridge for Bennett and Jokipakka NEXT summer
5. Hathaway, Wotherspoon, Gillies signed to cheap depth deals


1. Gaudreau (7,500,000) - Monahan (6,000,000) - Puljujarvi (925,000)
2. Shinkaruk (863,333) - S. Bennett (4,000,000) - M Frolik (4,300,000)
3. Colborne (3,000,000) - Backlund (3,575,000) - D Pribyl (925,000)
4. L Bouma (2,200,000) - M Stajan (3,125,000) - Hathaway (800,000)

1. Giordano (6,750,000) - TJ Brodie (4,650,400)
2. Jokipakka (3,000,000) - Hamilton (5,750,000)
3. Wotherspoon (900,000) - Andersson (786,667)

1. Bobrovsky (7,425,000)
2. J. Gillies (800,000)

Total CAP - $67,375,400

That's a crap ton of cap space to make improvements and add 13th/14th forwards and a 7th Dman. That's almost $6 million under the 2016/17 CAP nevermind the fact that it likely goes up again NEXT summer as well.

Flames add Bobrovsky (or any goalie for $7 million) and they won't be losing Bennett, Brodie or any core member because of it.
I appreciate your run at this but I think you grossly underestimate the salaries of players, especially Monahan and Bennett. You are also looking at a one year window, not considering the long term ramifications of contracts. You're using bottom end salaries for players that you hope to earn positions based on their play, but if they earn those positions based on their play they aren't taking a bottom end salary, so those costs are going to be higher. You also have seven players on your roster on entry level value deals. That is unlikely. I can't see the Flames relying that heavily on youth.

It would be exceptionally difficult to fit Bob's salary on this team THIS year, let alone in the future. We have $53M committed to 18 skaters right now, and have Gaudreau, Monahan, Colborne, Jooris, and Ortio to resign as RFAs. Then we have to do something with Nakladal, who I think can fit in as a long term low cost player, probably for less that $2M per for three seasons. So you trade for Bob and we now have a commitment of $60.5M and still have the RFA mess to work through. You can count on probably another $14M between Gaudreau and Monahan. Colborne is going to be a hit at around $2-3M. Jooris and Ortio will be $1-1.5M players. You're talking another $16M to be conservative. Even with Smid's LTIR cap relief we're over the cap.

You can have only so many expensive salaries on your team at any one time and the Flames appear to have come close to that level. They have committed to Giordano and Hamilton, and the will soon be adding Gaudreau and Monahan to that list. Bennett is certain to follow if he builds on his successful rookie campaign. You manage to get Poolboy and have Brodie in the mix and our big salaries seem to be spoken for. A big ticket goaltender doesn't seem feasible long term.
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