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Old 06-21-2016, 02:59 AM   #533
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
I know what the terms mean, I'm just not sure why Obama prefers ISIL as terminology. I'm just curious as to why. I don't have a particular preference, really, but most people seem to use ISIS, and if I had to choose, ISIS seems more accurate, doesn't it? Might as well have everyone using the same lexicon.

But anyway, if you don't think it's common sense that these are religious people acting for what they see as their religious mandate, then I don't know what to tell you, you've abandoned reality completely.
The idea that a lack of clear talk is what is standing in the way of the West and the regressive views some Muslims have lacks even basic intellectualism.

The West isn't winning any ideology war with Islam in the Middle East. Never, ever. Ego-centric fantasy. Nor are moderate and progressive Muslims in the current state of things. The "war" on this type of ideology will be state sponsored, it'll be political, and it'll be based on human rights in conjunction with religion, not in rejection of it. The same way it's been progressed in the West. You need people to reject the acts first, and then they'll reject the teachings.

It's nice you think that being for gay rights here means you're for gay rights everywhere. It is also painfully naïve to think talking clearly here is going to make a difference everywhere. Naïve to the point of dangerous ignorance. The two things your version of talking clearly will accomplish is:
A. Inspiring resentment of Muslims among Americans who can't differentiate and
B. Inspiring ISIS to continue by recognising their representation of Islam.
Nothing quells an extremist religious crusade better than constant acknowledgement of their representation of the teachings of that religion, right?

Did you ever stop to think that certain terms (like Daesh, or ISIL, or refusing to acknowledge their religious significance) are used for effect? If you think it has nothing to do with important posturing in the face of groups like ISIS and everything to do with "Ugh! PC!", you're flat out wrong. Type less, consider more.

It takes time to shift ideology. If you think any progress will be made by the US president telling it straight, your understanding of the problem is in its infancy.
Your one-note personal war against political correctness misses the mark on this one. Irrelevant.

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