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Old 06-07-2016, 06:25 PM   #6253
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
I'd note that your abortion example falls apart, because most pro-life people aren't pro-life because of nebulously defined "traditional Christian and family values". They think that abortion is the practice of murdering babies.
My example is not a hypothetical one, it's a vastly simplified version of history, so the people who were prone to change their minds already did that. What we have left is the ones who didn't. And as you point out, instead of an ideological question it's a simple binary issue about murdering babies. Which underlines my original point.

People who have an opinion that is not based on ideology are the ones that can't be talked out of their opinions. The modern "un-ideological" discussion where every issue is a singular one is one reason for the death of bi-partisan politics.

Of course there are numerous ideologies on all sides, but since nobody wants to admit they have one (at least in public), talking about where the middle ground might be becomes impossible.

There is no middle-ground for murdering babies anymore. But there used to be a lot of middle ground on the topic of abortion, when it was part of a larger discussion on family values.
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