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Originally Posted by Red
That's probably most important.
There is a show on tv where the trainer gets fat and then works off the extra weight with the obese client. Kind of a way of supporting and understanding the difficulty of weight loss.
I bet 90 percent of the obese people re-gain the weight and the trainers maintain theirs. Cause both will be back to their own habits.
That article itself mentions these guys fighting temptations, eating a whole bag of chips etc. Not surprised they gain weight. But at the same time I can't discredit that study, there may be something to it.
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I hope you guys did read the article, i know its one of those TLDR but your over simplification of the issue seems to suggest you didn't.
In your specific example having a trainer who's fit gain weight to then lose weight with someone who's been overweight for presumably some time, enough so that their metabolism is much lower than the trainer, a lack of a key hormone in the stomach, as well with any myriad of powerful urges and cravings built up over time of bad eating habbits... vs a fit trainer, well its just quite ridiculous. The only apt trainer to help understand what the person is going through is a trainer who was once obese, got fit and kept it off. I know of one such trainer in Iceland and he is an outstanding guy.
The comments people make, usually with good intent "calories in, calories out, easy" "lifestyle change not diet" are not helping our discourse. It hints or as often comes out people suggest the problem is with the person and their weak willpower, aka lazy people are simply to blame.
Ignoring the powerful effects of hormones, damaged metabolisms, sometimes genetic issues, and a host of psychological issues that often come part and parcel with obesity. Depression for example is very common among the obese, and its a double whammy for them as it drains them of energy to begin with, making it that much harder to get themselves going or to stick with changes they make.
When people make simplistic comments that don't take in to consideration of how complex this issue really is, and the immense struggle people face, its hard not to get frustrated as someone who actively tries to communicate what the reality of this all is. I just today had 2 interviews for 2 newspapers in Iceland about Biggest loser, fat shaming, etc.. One is an english language paper here, I'll be sure to share when it comes out.
But ultimately for obese to listen to people who have never had to deal with this difficult problem, feels like someone who has never had a drinking problem walking in to an AA meeting and lecturing them on how simple it is, just only drink a few beer and stop. That would be ludicrous, yet when it comes to obesity people are almost gleefully happy to make harsh judgments and tell people how they need to do it, while never having been in their shoes or clearly not understanding the incredibly hard road they are on.
Often its just empathy thats lacking, and certainly online and in society today that is in short supply.
I would never write this stuff anywhere but CP forums, and my own FB wall, because at least here most of the people I interact with are good, decent folk, whom I can disagree with but know they are not outright just trying to be cruel.
Changing how people view this epidemic will help a lot in our battle to turn things around, you would never shame people with a host of other afflictions, but when it comes to food and obesity its so often a point of jokes and insults. I see that changing, albeit slowly, even in Iceland which has a long tradition of people "speaking their minds."