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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
I haven't seen the lists this year but in 20 years of following the draft closely I've noticed that surprises are the norm in the draft. The "consensus" list done by Bob Mackenzie might be the best guess at the draft order but his list does not closely resemble every team's lists.
For example I think all of the following may be true:
-Some teams have Nylander top 6 while others may not have him top 10
-Some teams have Chychrun top 6 while others may not have him top 10
-Some teams have Brown top 6 while others may not have him top 10
-Some teams have Jost top 8 while others may not have him top 12
-Some teams have Juolevi as the top dmen
-Some teams have Sergachev as the top dman
-Some teams have Chychrun as the top dman
-It's not inconceivable that certain teams may have Bean, Fabbro or McAvoy as the top dman
-Some teams have Gauthier top 10 while others may not have him top 15
-Some teams have Mike McLeod top 10 while others may not have him top 15
-Some teams have Keller top 10 while others may not have him top 15
-Some teams have multiple defensemen in their top 7 while other teams may have zero defensemen in their top 7
These are examples but I think we could do the same for most of the players in this draft. I think what we'd find if we could look at all the lists is that there is not very much consensus at all outside of the top 3 players this year.
Which players outside the top 3 do seem to have some consensus around them? Seems like Tkachuk is top 5 for most teams. Seems like Dubois is top 8 for most teams. Seems like Juolevi is top 10 for most teams. Outside of that I see almost no consensus at all.
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Thank you for this response. Very well presented and well thought out, I appreciate that you took this time.
To be honest though, it almost reads like now we're saying the same thing but just have different tolerances to the scale upon how far the range might extend.
I had noted that the same list of names should typically be found on the same rankings from team to team early on save for variance of order. There is no particular consensus of who is 6th as an exact, but from what I can tell, the discussions to date have centred around Nylander, Juolevi, Chychrun, etc. You read about Brown and Sergachev and a few others as outliers, but from what I have been following (not nearly as much as yourself mind you) there does seem to be a general grouping of players for consideration along with some secondary names, none of which have Gauthier in the mix. It just seems wherever the line is drawn for that particular ledge (or whatever term people are using) that Gauthier is not discovered on this side of it.
Thank you again for the great replies and excellent conversation. I've been reading about how some folks have been getting a bit rude in discussion but you've shown zero signs in refute, and that hasn't gone unnoticed. It's been a pleasure learning from you and consideration all your valid points to date. Thanks again.