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Old 05-30-2016, 12:23 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
Well, he's really just talking about identity politics and dealing with ideas on their merits, which is certainly a fair example to use - it should be a quintessential liberal principle (the "tyranny of the majority" notion) that all perspectives, including the minority perspective, should contribute to a broad potpourri of world views, including a whole bunch of them that are ultimately determined to be wrong on their merits. No one's views should be dismissed or given an exalted status based on their position in society, their sex, their race or their sexual orientation - the rejection of the notion that women or blacks can't be trusted with the vote because their views are inherently of lesser worth, for example.

The regressive left approach is to invert the matter completely and say, to use an extreme example that I've seen in various contexts, "if you're a man, shut up and listen to women on women's issues, you have nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation".

Anyway last post on the subject as I'm likely to get accused of threadjacking again.
I'd kind of like to poke it one more time. I do agree the "regressive-left" does exist (anti-GMO, Anti-Vax, etc...), however, just like we don't want to center health policy around people that have no clue what their talking about, we don't want to center any policy around people that are actually wrong about their points. So while, they are free to express themselves, there is a certain point where you just have to say "Nope, you're wrong. Let the rest of us move on and you can yell at the clouds if you please." to these people.

Sorry, but opinions based of incorrect information need to be corrected, whether its a person on the "left" or the "right" or basically any person in general. If you learn the new information, and find a way to ninja your brain into still believing your old way somehow, as long as it's based on the new information, I don't care (IE: religion and creation of the Earth. If you want to believe that God started the big bang, and thus your religion is still valid, that perfectly fine by me. If you're going to keep trying to convince me that the Earth is significantly younger than it is because you read it in a 4 thousand year old book, sorry, nothing of what you say on this matter holds any weight anymore, because it's based on a idea that has been proven to be incorrect.)

If you are operating and basing your opinions on information you believe to be right, but isn't, you are behind and need to be educated or go live in the woods and let the rest of humanity grow without you needlessly holding us back.
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