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Old 05-29-2016, 12:19 PM   #586
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Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
TorqueDog, whatever the details are of how it happens, the fact that it happens unexpectedly and without being agreed to purposefully is a major problem. When everyone is pissed off about it happening to their computers, you can be pretty sure they didn't purposefully agree to it.

MS conditioned everyone to click the red X to close the annoying window for months and months. Then they changed the behaviour of that. That is 100% on them. And to actually do the update without a final "do you want to upgrade now" message? Really bad form.
First off, knowing the details are paramount if you want to understand and subsequently fix the problem.

Secondly, what you've said is incorrect. The behavior never changed. If the window already shows a time and date, the update is already scheduled. It's not asking "Do you want it?", you've already said you do -- either by clicking the Reserve my copy button or Start download, upgrade later or whatever.

If the window says "Upgrade now" or "Start download, upgrade later", then one of two things is going on:
1. You have not opted in. Thus, clicking the red X will act as a 'I don't want the update' button.
2. You have opted in, but the download has not completed. You'll know if this is the case by the presence of the $WINDOWS.~BT folder on the C drive, and the progress indicator of the download in the Windows Update screen. Clicking the red X will not abort this, because the update is not being downloaded by GWX.

Example screen:


Imagine you're a user who did want the update, and then clicked the red X to dismiss the window without making changes to the schedule -- essentially confirming that whatever date was picked is fine by them. It would be counter-intuitive if clicking that red X cancelled the scheduled update. Read the window: It says "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade".

GWX, upon your accepting the upgrade either by saying you want to "Reserve your copy", "Upgrade now", or "Start download, upgrade later" makes one important change to the registry:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Win dowsUpdate\OSUpgrade
AllowOSUpgrade DWORD set to 1

That little bit allows WU to download Windows 10. And that bit does not get flipped without the user opening the GWX window and choosing to download or upgrade. Period. Run ProcMon and see for yourself. Clicking the red X without opting-in does not make the registry change needed.

The narrative being pushed by tech blogs is FUD. Anyone can verify this for themselves, and in fact I'm surprised that they haven't. The upgrade simply does not opt-in by itself.
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