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Old 05-10-2016, 12:48 PM   #642
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I think the Umbers/Karstarks will betray Ramsay just as he looks to have the upper hand in fighting Jon and the Wildlings, who will launch a siege on Winterfell as Jon learns of Ramsay's doings. I think the direwolf head is a fake/decoy. After all, they didn't seem willing to submit and bend the knee to the Boltons, and Bran and friends wouldn't send Rickon to seek shelter with people they knew he couldn't trust. That'd be totally foolish. Also we've seen this whole Stark being held prisoner thing already. So why would they retread that so soon after? Seems redundant.

Do the math people! Anyways, I'm calling it right now.
I hope I can quote myself on it later.
I think you're right. The whole "not bending the knee" thing is going to be a huge deal down the road.

Ramsay is also far from liked. Any allies he has are allies of convenience. The other nobles are likely to continue to see him as an illegitimate imposter, regardless of what title he now holds.

Also, them including Osha in the deal is highly suspect. If the Umbers really wanted to give up Rickon, you'd think they'd dispose of his highly deadly body guard.

We also don't know if old Jon Umber is actually dead. It seems highly suspect that they'd do away with an important Stark ally off screen and then simply just have the Umbers decide to totally switch alliances.
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