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Old 05-09-2016, 03:27 PM   #421
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
It's possible people's opinions are being clouded by the Toronto stink but that Leafs team under him played pretty terrible hockey for the most part and IMO this is a young team that needs more of a teacher coach that is going to install a sound defensive game. I'm just not sure if Carlyle checks that box.
Wasn't there the joke out that season that after they fired Carlyle and the Leafs got even worse, that Carlyle should have received Jack Adams votes? Because it showed just how poor that team was. I believe the Leafs were actually in playoff contention when they fired him and then after the change, they really dived.

Right so the record with and without Carlyle that year was:

Randy Carlyle (21-16-3-0)
Peter Horachek (9-28-0-5)

I do recall that Leaf team being badly outshot that year that he was fired but if you look at his "body or work" with the Leafs, he actually had a winning record.
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