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Originally Posted by shutout
http://flamesnation.ca/2016/5/9/2016...ngs-may-9-2015
seven different top 30 lists from prominent publications - Damien Cox of Sportsnet, Craig Button of TSN, International Scouting Services (ISS), Future Considerations (FC), McKeen's Hockey, Draftbuzz Analytics (DB), and the Draft Analyst (DA)
Point system pretty much shows the top three. Then the three wingers. Then the three defensemen.
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Stuff like this can end up misleading fans IMO although it is still interesting. It's just dangerous to read too much into this and to see consensus where there actually is zero consensus. And personally a few of these rankings suffer from a lack of a credibility. If I was doing these I'd be throwing out the Cox rankings and the McKeen's rankings for sure. Pity they can't have Redline in there (because they don't publicly release a top 30, only their top 10). And pity Button doesn't have updated rankings either as I find his lists quite interesting.
Basically Mackenzie's list is a consensus list and he polls actual scouts instead of clowns like Cox to get a wide variety of opinion. So IMO Mackenzie's list is just more useful than this. Especially when he goes into detail about one scout having Chychrun top 4, one scout having Juolevi top 5, one scout having Fabbro top 5, etc. 9/10 scouts having Tkachuk top 5, but only 3-4 out of 10 having Dubois top 5. Gives you a real idea of how much variance there actually is between the teams and scouts.
This draft is going to be really hard to predict after the top 3. It may go similar to these consensus lists but there could easily be shocker after shocker in the top 10-15 this year instead.
There are just so many wildcards. Treliving has talked about how you could talk to 10 scouts and they may all disagree one who the top defensemen in this draft are. Chychrun, Juolevi, Sergachev, Bean, McAvoy, Fabbro all have a chance to go top 10. Most of them have a chance to not go top 10. Who's gonna step up and take big Logan Brown? Where is someone gonna decide that Keller's skill trumps his size? So many interesting stories within the draft this year.
There are probably 8-10 guys who you could argue should be in consideration for the Flames pick at #6 but we know the Flames have narrowed it down quite a bit further than that. Hard for us to do so though. So far the limited information (or misinformation) that we have is that Treliving sees a ledge after 6, then a slight drop after 7 as well. Burke has said he believes their top 8 or so would be competing for jobs until late in camp. Can that rule anybody out? If we can believe Burke then it rules out McAvoy, Fabbro, Jost and Keller because all 4 are college players and thus can't even go to main camp without losing their college eligibility. Is that a safe assumption? Hard to say. Can we rule out Nylander due to his lack of an NHL frame at this point? Maybe, maybe not? I think if Burke is to be believed then you have to think the defensemen who do have NHL frames already (Chychrun, Sergachev) may be in their top 8. Juolevi might be a late cut from camp due to hockey sense especially if he bulks up a bit. Can we rule out Brown because its unlikely he'd survive late into camp given our depth at centre and the fact Jankowski has many years of development on Brown? I dunno. It's a lot of guesswork at this point. Am I reading too much into the Burke interview? Potentially
