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Originally Posted by Thor
Its more simple than that, its the anger of people who feel their government does not represent them, and see Hillary is another stay the course politician.
Believe me plenty of Hillary supporters are just as stubborn with facts. I mean so much of the things they are huffing over are the same things Obama supporters said about Hillary supporters during their feisty campaign.
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I would imagine that has to do with speaking from experience right? They know what Bernie supporters are going through right now since they did the same in 08: Wanting to win so very badly, even as it is becoming impossible to do so. So you talk yourself into believing the impossible will happen (We're going to win New York!), and when it doesn't you get angrier as people point out more harsh realities rather than accept it. Typical of the stages of grief I suppose.
Most Bernie supporters will come around, and I suspect he severely dials it back after next Tuesday, which looks like he's walking into another buzzsaw. Or maybe they'll triple down and think they can win California 85-15 to secure the pledge delegate lead. Let's hope they come back to reality though.
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
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Right, its financed from on high, but they started at the bottom by targeting Republicans for primaries, not even just running third party to beat Dems. That's as low on the bar as you can get for Federal politics. Bernie's movement is going right for the Presidency, which if he somehow wins will almost certainly be burdened with a GOP House and Senate, effectively making him a lame duck President on day 1. Start by trying to get more progressives in Congress. When Obama had the stacked deck of 60 Senate seats (i.e. filibuster proof) and control of the House, he still couldn't get healthcare passed. Whether Bernie likes it or not, there's a lot of blue dog and conservative Democrats. If he ever wants single payer, he needs tons more progressives instead. Start from the bottom, and work up.