[CaptainCrunch]

Ouch that hurts, but as a group I have to say that your confidence in your Friiends will be your downfall.

The only thing that I go back to (and yes it makes me a huge nerd) is that the Sith are terrified of two things and they're linked. One is losing their power, and the other is death, because Death is the ultimate loss of power.

Letting go of things is the core of the Jedi, they're selfless and thus sacrifice is a big part of what they do, they put others needs over theirs as well, which lead to Kenobi eating a light sabre.

What doomed the Jedi in the prequels and its interesting is that they lost their way. They decided to attack the Chanceller and literally seize power, they discussed purging the Republic Senate. They fought in a war where victory in battle became important, instead of bending to the will of the Force. They became Generals and Commanders and actively fought out conflict. If the Jedi had accepted that the Clone Wars was something that was political and not fought in it, Sideous' plan wouldn't have come to fruition;.

The Sith on the other hand are entirely selfish, they believe in gaining knowledge through power, or seizing what they want. They believe that only they as superior beings can rule the galaxy, Because they are selfish and aren't willing to sacrifice or let go, it should be impossible to willingly die and become part of the will of the Force which is what the Force Ghosts really are.

So in that aspect I was so glad that the EU was made non-canon because you had a billion angry Sith Force Ghosts running around.

So why would I think that Plageuis becoming a Force Ghost would make Palpatine look like a Schmuck? Because throughout the Prequels Palpatine was the ultimate plotter, he rarely picked up a light saber or threw Lighning. He manipulated his world and everything in it to get to the ultimate end, and to do that he used not only his incredible intellect and planning, but his strong ability to see through the Force to future events. So he would have known that Plagieus was still around because the Force would have been disturbed in some way by his master's presence in it.

Also and its interesting but even in the Revenge of the Sith Palpatine felt the Force change when Anakin betrayed everything to become a Sith Lord, it was as it the Force was announcing it. I keep thinking and they alluded to it in the Plageius book that the Force changed when Palpatine became the Dark Lord of the Sith.

Look, I know the argument that Palapatine didn't see his death coming at the hands of his apprentice. But Palpatine was like the Jedi during the Clone Wars. He had become arrogant and unchallenged, and the re-emergence of the Light started because of that and Palpatines ability to see through the Force became clouded. He actually alluded to it when he was talking to Vader about his son in ROTJ.

If somehow Plageuis had survived Palpatines plans, then Palpatine to me looks weak, he's also not the True Dark Lord of the Sith. The EU went out of their way to make Palpatine a complete bone head in every way. I'd prefer that the Palpatine leading up to the start of ROTJ was awesome and perfect.