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There's also a large group of historians and scholars who point out Jesus most likely was born of the story's of demigods or popular politicians from different countries who were executed threw crucifixion.
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NO! There most certainly is not!
There are Richard Carrier and Robert Price, both of whom are marginal scholars with massive chips on their shoulders and axes to grind. The vast majority of scholars who work in the field of middle eastern antiquities are very comfortable with various reconstructions of the historical Jesus by Albert Schweitzer,
et al. Virtually none of them find a single element of the mythicist theory even remotely convincing or altogether plausible.
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Christianity was born out of Pagan and mythical beliefs so even if a man named Jesus in Nazareth did exist he would have been insignificant to Christianity and the gospels. The entire new testament really has little to zero historical value either.
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As usual, on both counts you are wrong. And you continue to spout these blatant falsehoods no matter how often I debunk them.
First, while there are elements of pagan ritual and ideology embedded within Christianity, it is thoroughly a Hellenised Jewish religion. Second, the very substance of Christianity is grounded on a belief in the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth. Were there no Jesus, there would almost certainly be no Christianity. Third, while the historical value of the NT is limited, it is a gross exaggeration to say that it contains no historical value. The NT for all its flaws remains the best available source for the life of Jesus and the emergence Christianity. But even beyond that, the NT is invaluable as an historical source for early Judaism, and for Roman rule in Palestine during the first century C.E.
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Any of these "historians" you speak of that lean to him being real have an underlining reason for it....money!
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Yes. That "underlying reason" would be a primary commitment to historical plausibility, and the vast majority of them are not lining their pockets from booksellers and appearances in film documentaries. They are academics. Which means than most are badly overworked, and severely underpaid.
On all counts, the existence of Jesus is eminently plausible, and it remains the best explanation for the emergence of Christianity in the first century C.E.