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Old 04-05-2016, 11:30 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo View Post
Think you're being way too harsh and dramatic.

We could say the same things of Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook based on just the games we saw Calgary play them this season. Great players (especially defenders) who play 20 to 25+ minutes are going to get burned from time to time.

Of all the things he said, I don't see that as an issue at all.
Dramatic is not the appropriate word, it would be better described as matter of fact. Nice that you don't see it as an issue.

Fact is that the team has had a poor year defensively and the top D can not be insulated from the blame. And the examples I cited for Dougie were all goals that were key events in games that resulted in the Flames losing points.

On the subject of turnovers vs takeaways in this thread. I appreciate the spirit of trying to justify that in order to turn the puck over, you must have it.

But all you have to do is listen to Hartley's post game pressers. Often he describes that a turnover that results in a goal against.

The reality check - turnovers are way up, goals against are way up, and the team performance is way worse year over year.

The team has crap results this year and it is not in spite of the top 3D having been bulletproof, or because their high turnover numbers extrapolate to indicate superior possession.

These things are what they are. Data points indicating poor performance that translate to poor results.
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