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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Are you suggesting that he's waging some secret campaign against the worst elements within his political ideological wing without anyone noticing?
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I'll respond to this again as you clearly didn't understand me the first eime.
I assumed that the idea that he should/would be on an active campaign to tone-police liberals was hyperbole. Whether or not this was hyperbole, it kind of strongly hints that this is the standard you'd want to see: an active campaign.
Which is kind of crazy. He's the POTUS, not the nanny of the nation.
Let me ask you this: why is Obama in any way responsible for the "worst parts of the liberals"? He himself is a well-known centrist that at some point people around him suspected would join the Republicans. Extreme liberals commonly hate him. Many of those liberals don't even vote for the Democrats.
As a personal opinion, I really don't want the POTUS to spend his time herding cats, that's really not at all his job description.
The other thing I said was pretty much this:
You've built your own fantasy Obama out of things you're NOT seeing him do (enough). In other words, lack of existence of something used as proof of something else. Then you have your own expectations on what you'd WANT him to do. When it's your fantasy Obama vs. your expectations, what can anybody say to that?
You're not grounding anything you say in anything that Obama has actually done. The one thing you have mentioned that Obama has actually done is exactly the thing you want. So at best you have him at "he's not doing it as much as I'd like". Yet for some reason he's responsible for Trump.
Let's take your Federalist link as another example of why you're not making much sense.
You obviously have not simply read the facts of what happened from there, but agree with their interpretation of what happened. Considering the source, that should be a clear warning sign to yourself.
You have no idea why the White House decided to edit out the words "Islamist terrorist", and neither do I. You just decided it was because of White House political correctness gone haywire. If I was to guess, I think it's just as likely someone in Hollande's staff asked them to edit that out, because they care the most about it. It's also perfectly possible that the White House staff did edit it themselves. It's possible Obama didn't know, and would not have approved. It's possible he knows and approves. There's a possibility something happened we couldn't even guess. Mostly we don't know.
What we do know is this: It's incredibly small and really irrelevant. Is Obama to some extent responsible for the work of his staff? Of course. Can you point out to this behavior being somehow rampant? No you can't. More importantly, how this relates to Trump supporters I have no clue.
The other link you provided said that Obama used a stat about female sexual abuse that is pretty well established to be false. Sure. It's also probably the most commonly quoted number. I get why the wrong stat bothers you, but how does that in any way back your claim? How does an incorrect figure about violence against women make Trump supporters feel so bad about themselves that they feel they have to lash out by supporting Trump?
Also, if you want to talk about insanely kneejerk political rhetorics, you just turned Obama's public appeal to end violence towards women against him, because you don't like the statistic he used. Let me just say that it doesn't exactly make you seem like a guy that I'd be taking moral guidance from anytime soon.
Let me also suggest to you this: considering the way Obama behaves in public, my guess is that in his opinion it would be improper for the POTUS to try and tone-police the nation. Freedom of speech and all. I would however guess that he expects the people in his staff to reflect his values in their behavior, and those values clearly include respect towards the opposing views. To me that is the only thing he should be doing.
You may disagree, and I get THAT. What I really don't get is how on earth is liberal rhetorics in any way Obama's fault, when the cultural wars between liberals and democrats have been going on way before anyone knew who he was, and both sides of that war pretty much instantly started hating him and wouldn't listen to him anyway.