[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

Corsi...again, I disagree with the comparisons to Simon or Torres, with Keith...IMO, Keith has more of an ANGER MANAGEMENT problem, rather than, like Torres, running around and trying to injure players as a initiator. ALL the incidents with Keith have been RETALIATORY to a provocation. Doesn't excuse him, doesn't make him a "cleaner" player...just points out the difference between Torres, a truly "dirty player" and Keith, who can be provoked into a "dirty" retaliation.

With Torres, there is ALWAYS a chance that he is going to go out of his way to cripple a guy...with Keith, the majority of the time, he is going to make a clean "hockey" play, UNLESS, you have a. Hit him in the face with your shoulder WELL after a play, b. Slashed his bare hand in an attempt to injure him, c. Slewfooted him to force a turnover, and d. High Sticked him in the mouth AND slew footed him on the same play, which cover all four provocations that have been brought up on this thread.

Is retaliation acceptable? No, and to the Neanderthals that say, drop the gloves instead, I say, what makes a blunt force concussion with concentrated force superior, ethically, to other forms of retaliation?

But, to equate provoked, heat of the moment, retaliation (Keith, in 3 of the above instances), to conscious attempts to injure (Torres, repeatedly) you are not talking about the same degree of dirtbaggery.

Does it really make a difference if it's unprovoked or an anger management issue? At the end of the day, he just can't seem to control himself and that's the issue. One of these days Keith really will actually 'McSorely' someone if if keeps on like this and all the explaining in the world won't help him one iota. The next time Keith does something like this, he needs a 20+ game suspension, he just doesn't get it. He has no respect for the players on the other team and, quite frankly, he's dangerous out there because of it. It makes no difference that Torres or Simon are 'worse', Keith is still dirtier than 99% of the players in the NHL.