[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Not sure that I agree.

Bernie is bringing in the young voters--namely, those who aren't known for being particularly involved in politics beyond clicking a "like" button.

Would they vote for Hillary? Doubtful.

What don't you agree with? Coming into this election, Bernie's major issue was getting minority votes. To date he's consistently gotten killed by the minority vote, a voting block she dominates (along with women too for that matter). He's still primarily riding on the backs of mostly white, mostly young voters. He hasn't expanded much past that, hence why he has little chance to win. And those voters never vote to begin with, so while they are nice, they are hardly necessary (as they were not necessary in 2008 or 2012).

Which is irrelevant, because unlike the voters that Bernie is bringing out, the minorities and women who are currently voting for Hillary would--by all accounts--also vote for Bernie if he were the sole Democratic candidate.

So, in reality, Bernie is changing the equation to winning by bringing out the youth vote and, arguably, others who typically would not vote for the Democratic party.

Hillary, on the other hand, hasn't changed the equation at all, as she hasn't widened the Democratic voter base nor broadened the Party's appeal. Instead, she's simply relying on the historic Democratic base--but she isn't increasing it in any way.

Too bad this is the Democratic nominee for President and not the independent nominee for President. He loses all the Democratic demos pretty soundly. He's tried to use the Democratic Party to be the nominee, while not actually appealing to most of the base of that party. Shockingly he's done poorly with that approach. Say what you will about Trump, but he stole the GOP base and that's why he's winning. Bernie can't connect with the base, that's why he's losing.

Bernie is bringing out independents who generally don't vote at all. So really if they don't vote in 2016 it'll be....just like 2012, 2008 etc...More votes are nice, but they aren't necessary to win at all. The Dems dominated the last two elections without a surge of new independents. They're nice, but not necessary. Now if those people want to turn around and vote for Trump, why would you ever want the support of people who will turn to a Trump if one thing doesn't go their way? Sounds like anarchists to me, not progressives or liberals. Most of Bernie's support from progressives and liberals will reluctantly fall in line, since the alternatives have stated their goal is to crush progressives.

Are you forgetting that this same claim is essentially all that Hillary has made as well?

The DNC has rigged the game so that Hillary will be the nominee. The whole charade was preordained from the outset. All because Hillary believes--and has convinced others that---she deserves to win.

Wow, so they've rigged a 2.5 million vote advantage to her? Very impressive. This is actually by far the biggest disappointment in some Bernie supporters, they've essentially become right wingers with conspiracy theories and other nonsense. Hillary appeals the the Democratic base way more than Bernie, that's why she's winning. She's virtually guaranteed to go into a convention with more total votes, and more total delegates. If Hillary were trying to poach the supers with that scenario reversed (Bernie ahead in votes/delegate), I'm guessing Bernie supporters would probably threaten to riot. But when it's Hillary, must be a conspiracy.