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Originally Posted by Frequitude
None. What's your point? They were given the operating rights out of the gate. Was that a benevolent gift? Yup. Does that give the Flames the right years later to demand control of it? Nope. Does it make the Stampede a meddling hard to work with group? Nope. Unless you being against me taking over operational control of your house and parking on your driveway for free makes you a meddling hard to work with fellow. What if your parents gave you that house for free? Would it be ok for me then to demand operational control and park on your driveway for free?
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How did you put it? Why should they (Stampede board) have any rights to that revenue without paying for it? The Stampede grounds were town of Calgary land way back in the day and the board was established to manage that event and property. What right do they have to demand anything beyond what the city directs them to do in regards to those lands? But that is what it is like to deal with the board, base on my experience working with them in the 70s and 80s. They don't know their place and think they should tell everyone how to conduct their business, even when it is beyond their understanding or purview.
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Much like back then, the Flames ownership group are once again acting like whiny spoiled children who want, and even feel entitled to, someone else's toy for free. They, in my humble opinion, can respectfully **** off.
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Funny, but that has always been my perspective on the Stampede board. Hated my time there and hated how the did business. I've always appreciated what the board has done for the reputation of Calgary on a global scale, but I hate the way they approach doing business,especially with local interests. Just my opinion. I think it's about time someone told them to respectfully #### off and leave them holding the white elephant that has become the grounds.
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The grounds certainly would become much less busy and I completely understand why the Flames would prefer to venture out on their own. It is purely business. What I am contending is that it has absolutely nothing to do with the Stampede Board being some meddling hard to work with group (which some on here like yourself have pulled out of their ass).
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the board has always been a pain in the ass to deal with. It's the nature of what they are. As has been pointed out, there are more than enough failings by the Stampede board to understand how they work and why things fail.
@monkeyman
The Flames leave you will not get another team without a new building. There are other markets out there. Quebec City with a brand new state of th art arena. Markham will bend over backwards to get a team. Portland and Seattle are both on the league's radar and could certainly support a team. If the current team can't make a go of it you can bet your ass the league will block any potential movement back to Calgary until they have a new facility. Or are you forgetting that all moves require board of governors approval?