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Old 03-24-2016, 02:18 PM   #112
Cecil Terwilliger
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Originally Posted by Canehdianman View Post
Thanks for the lesson in law, but I never said he was innocent. I said he didn't deserve to be in prison. As he's been acquitted of all charges, I'm not sure how you can think otherwise. It exactly means that he doesn't deserve to go to jail.

We will never know if he would have been convicted in the absence of the collusion and lies, but it is pretty clear that the complainants thought they had to do those things in order to get a conviction (otherwise, why do it?)
Wait hold on. RE: the bolded part, that is exactly what court decisions not decide is "deserves". That's a subjective term and open to debate for each person to decide. Guilty/Not Guilty has nothing to do with deserves.

As for your second paragraph I actually think they lied to avoid the wrath of segments of the public who would vilify Jian to such a degree that I think they felt immense guilt for carrying on a relationship with him.

I mean the protesters and other such people (not all of them but some) that are vehemently against our justice system giving him his day in trial. They are militant in their "it's rape culture" stance and have actually put pressure (not directly of course, I'm not talking coercion) on the victims to pretend he was a psychotic violent monster 24/7. That's not to mention the people who would have questioned these women because they genuinely don't understand abusive relationships. Basically it was a no-win scenario for these women. Or maybe it was one of a dozen other reasons why they didn't tell the full truth. Maybe it wasn't the cycle of abuse. Maybe they just thought he had an episode and wanted to give him a second chance, maybe there was an attraction to status that caused them to use bad judgement. It could be any number of things. Bottom line is that I don't think they lied because they are scumbags. I'd bet they did it because they felt like if they told the truth they'd be judged by the "jian supporters" and by their own supporters, if it is fair to call either group that name.

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