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Originally Posted by jammies
The narrative that these terrorists want to create is Islam vs Everybody Else. When people start talking about the "Muslims" being the problem, oir "Islam" being the problem, they are helping the terrorists create that narrative.
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With you so far.
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Once that interpretation of events becomes the norm, if you are of the Muslim faith, you will be forced to choose either the side of your brethren, or of those who want to deport/marginalize/kill you.
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This is what I'm emphasizing as a particular crazy, scary perspective. You really think if anyone criticizes the faith of Islam that anyone who identifies as Muslim is going to either join with, or behave similarly to, ISIS and other violent extremists? I think you're absolutely wrong, but partly, I'm just being optimistic. The alternative is horrifying.
But even if it were true, I'd say that no belief system, religious or otherwise, is above criticism.
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Originally Posted by Jammies
We already know what causes terrorism - alienated groups, humanity's love of violence, and the human failing of credulity. It's not Islam, it's not Machine-Gun Jesus, it's not militant tree-huggers, it's not even godless socialism in our precious bodily fluids. It's people letting their fear and anger drive them to simple solutions and finding someone to blame, and reducing discourse to the same level makes us no better.
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No, we don't, and I fundamentally disagree with all of this. What causes someone to want to martyr themselves in the name of God is more complicated than JUST scripture, but scripture plays an integral role. The perpetrators of these attacks just won't stop telling you what their underlying motivation is, and yet you refuse to listen to them. Really, you've got your head in the sand.