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Old 03-21-2016, 10:29 AM   #138
GranteedEV
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames View Post
I'm convinced you haven't watched very many games. Maybe you just have a short memory because the first half of the season we let in 3 soft goals a game.
That is total hyperbole. Even in games where the Flames gave up way too many goals against, like Vancouver@CGY, Washington@CGY, Edmonton@CGY, CGY@Ottawa, CGY@NRI at most there was a single soft goal and multiple terrible plays leading to goals in tight. In fact the one game where a soft goal legitimately cost the Flames, was the game at Winnipeg where Ramo posted a .931 save percentage. You seem to be the one with short memory as there were stretches where Hamilton for example looked like the worst defenseman in the NHL and games where Giordano was taking the most untimely penalties possible while Ramo was playing well. Even more recently games like Ottawa@CGY and CGY@SJS where the Flames got lit up, it's very obvious watching the goals against that coverage, not goaltending were issues.

That doesn't absolve goalies of some of their fails, they've all had some serious fails without a doubt. St. Louis @ Calgary(Hiller), Montreal @ Calgary (Ortio), Calgary @ Colorado (Ramo). But even average goalies have their fails, even great goalies have fail nights. Hiller has had enough fail nights that he's an easy target to blame, but the other two have had nights where they played well and still let up 4 goals against.

To post a .918 with the AAA chances our team has given up over the past year would be a goalie standing on his head and playing at a top ten level despite only being a top twenty save percentage.

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Originally Posted by AcGold View Post
Good goalies stop those shots they shouldn't make, that's the difference. A good goalie bails his team out when they make mistakes.
Good goalies =/= average goalies. Caged Great said an average goalie would post a .918 because it's an average save percentage. That's untrue. Many goalies posting a .918 are protected behind strong team defense. A .918 on this team would be an almost Lundqvist-esque performance.

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