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Old 09-26-2006, 10:52 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee View Post
How does the context of time change the fact that one culture moved into another country, decided that the local culture wasn't as civilized or deserving as them and gradually took all the land from them, it's just not the right way to treat another group of human beings. It's pretty poor to suggest that because of timeframe and context being decent to another group of people suddenly doesn't apply - in my mind it always should if you are a good person. One culture that didn't even have a system of private land ownership was eradicated and completely replaced - using warfare, uninvited progression west; well before the treaties were even signed, and trading smallpox infested blankets to the natives to wipe them out which is pretty different from two worlds diseases just bumping into one another.

I mean no offence to you but I'd urge you to do a little more reading on the subject, not only about the history but maybe even firsthand visiting a reserve, there are a few rich ones and many sad sad reserves. People not trying to take your tax money but just find a way to survive within a framework of government and legality that their culture disagrees with, starting with private ownership of land to begin with. European cultures being into imperialism really does nothing to justify their actions as fair.
There is a point in time when one has to stop bitchin about the past and start focusing on ones future. If you keep dwelling on the past you will never get over it. Like someone else posted, every group of people at some point or another has been abused and conquored.

As for experiencing natives first hand....I have. Our family ranches and farms. We rented sections and sections of land from natives off of the blood reserve. We dealt with them on a daily basis. These people did jack **** for work. We always had our rent payments paid more than a year in advance because they would come every other month wanting more money because they spend all of theirs. When you didn't give it to them they would go to the reserve and do numberous things to your livestock such as steal them, cut all the fences so that they would just walk off the pasture and go where ever they wanted. Lock the cows out of the watering hole so they couldn't get water.

These people would be at our house all the time trying to pawn off anything they had, cars, saddles, rings. My grandpa was even kind enough to hire some off them when they came and said they needed a job and wanted to make money like most people. You know what happened? EVERY time after working about two or three weeks, after they get their first check, they would never come back to work. They would never call...just not show up. Then maybe a month or two later...they would show up again and think everything is ok and they can have their job back. A lot of them have no idea of work ethic because everything is given to them.

Hutterites on the other hand...now there is hard workers. We would hire a bunch of the younger kids when harvest was done and they weren't needed at the coloney. These people would show up for work on time, every day and work their asses off. They would come into the farm house for dinner and take no longer than 30 mins and then they were back working has hard as ever. You want to see a group of people with work ethic, check out the hutterites.
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