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Old 09-26-2006, 01:09 AM   #75
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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor View Post


Under the law we are all equal. There is no white, black, brown, chinese or anything else. That is something any one of us could take the government to court over if racial profiling was ever openly tried by the government against sepcific ethnic groups such as how Arabs and Muslims are being mistreated in the US eventhough they had nothing to do with 9-11. It exists here but not so openly as in the US.

The Charter of Rights does not discriminate against Whites. Whites are the majority of the population in most places in Canada and Alberta. They already have most of the jobs and also have most of the spots in jails too as well as most of the hookers. It comes down to should a person's skin colour hold them back from a job when they are qualified? A white person has no such problem because White employers favour whites as employees. That is a FACT. There's even been studies done on topic.

There are some places like Montreal, Toronto which are really multicultural and even Vancouver which is 50% visible minority but not many places are like that in Canada. If you go outside Calgary anywhere south in Alberta there is probably 99% white people. Goto Lethbridge and Medicine Hat and tell me how many Blacks, Aboriginals, Arabs, Chinese and East Indians you know that live there v.s. percentage of White people there.

As a matter of fact it is fair because without such policies minorities regardless of their work experience & education in Canada would be unemployed at high levels and all those jobs would goto whites. That is part of the reason why many overseas immigrants who are doctors and engineers are driving cabs and doing such jobs. Their credentials may not be recognized but they still can't find any other work because of the colour of their skin. Government policies like that mentioned above give a chance to those who wouldn't get the job just because they are not white. Such hiring practices do exist. I wouldn't expect a white person to understand. One of the best examples of this is the good 'ol Oil and Gas industry workers in the field. What percentage are visible minorities v.s. White and then compare those percentages with the general public. Then tell me what is and what is not fair.

Someone else mentioned that redbeck is the same as the 'N' word...well its not even close. They are not even in the same league. I've only heard whites proudly claim themselves as rednecks. To learn more about what blacks had to go through during slavery I'd encourage you to watch the movie 'Roots'.

While we are discussing what's fair. I think that it is the right thing the Federal Government is doing by promoting individuals who are visible minorities, aboriginals and handicapped as well as Francophones because otherwise hiring practices such as those mentioned above would keep all government jobs to Anglophone whites.

Finally, how about aboriginals? What is fair to them? Their country was overrun and taken over by whites. Some of them were tricked into signing treaties. Other treaties weren't honoured by Canada. Alcohol and diseases were introduced to their people. Today the government gives individual reserves a lot of money but most reserves are in worse condition then 3rd world countries. Would you at least not agree that it is fair to give aboriginal individuals who want to pursue and education some kind of assistance from the government? What is wrong in helping a people who are down? Should the government be kicking them while they are down?
Sounds like your painting all white people with the same brush in the boldened sentences. Is that right or wrong? Sounds kind of like your stereotyping to me. But hey, I could be reading it wrong.

I understand what your saying for the most part I think, but the country's make up does have a lot to do with immigration patterns I would think and less so to do with our country being racist. The black slave trade was a product of the United States mostly, and I'm sure you know this, but Canada was the region for black people to ESCAPE TO via the underground tunnels. Somehow I don't connect with how a white person today should be punished for the deeds of a white person 100, 200, 300 years ago... but nonetheless it is something that is in the past. Canada has definitely had its documented past. If it is an issue of the present, then everything brought upon as as outrage is legitimate. My point is, however, that today's society is a far cry from the racial tensions of even just 50 years ago. That's not a whole heck of a lot of time and in my opinion I think our society has made progress in terms of understanding- and part of that ihas to do with the opportunities Canada has provided for minorities.

Maybe it is impossible for a world to be removed from racial intolerance, but we can keep trying to make it better by increasing our understanding and by learning. And there needs to be a balance. Not talking to somebody at a grocery store is a pretty sensitive line wouldn't you think? Frankly I'm not sure that we as a society will be able to overcome the friendliness that is natural between two humans who perceive commonality.

I'm seriously not trying to be sarcastic or condescending or anything, I'm actually really interested if you could provide a link to that study that white people only hire white people. If you could that'd be great, thanks.
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