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Originally Posted by jammies
I somewhat don't agree that shaming people is wrong, either. Shaming people shouldn't be done for reasons of cruelty, malice, or to make the shamer feel better about themselves, but mockery has its place. The idea that everyone has the right to believe what they want and be who they want to be without criticism is ridiculous.
So, really, fat-shaming is wrong because it almost never proceeds from a genuine desire to change behaviour, it's just an excuse for thinner people to feel good about themselves for not being fat, or to try to exercise control and dominance.
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I agree with your first statement completely. There is nothing wrong with challenging ideas or lifestyles. While hopefully, exercising respect.
I disagree with your second statement however. You are greatly assuming people's intentions. I can just as easily say challenging the idea that fat people should change stems from concerns over the weight (no pun intended) that our health care system must lift in order to deal with an ever growing obese society. Since we all must bear those costs associated with that treatment, I feel safe in saying that those criticisms do not stem from an air of superiority, but instead to actually have a positive net impact on society as a whole.
Again, to read through the Godless Apostate thread, would show that the criticisms you feel against "fat shaming" are explicitly evident as people denounce those who believe in "fairy tales" ect.
I'm all for treating people with respect but understand that if someone is fine with accosting religious people for their pie in the sky pink unicorn beliefs, and if they are packing a few extra pounds, shouldn't feel offended when it's pointed out that they are a disgusting fat body and a strain on the services we as a society must pay for. IE It goes both ways.
If we can challenge religious people based on their decisions and beliefs that they can change, certainly that applies to someone who is over weight and cannot/will not do anything to change their situation.