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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
Nobody was talking about power, the issue is can Goins sustain his second half from last season which showed improved patience, bat control, and a slight bump in power. Some players make a small adjustment half way through their careers, like those guys above, and the increased production (power or not) becomes sustainable.
Man, can't you ever just say "Good point, you're right"?
Your pessimism is exhausting.
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Because it's not a good point and factually incorrect. Those guys didn't make adjustments, those guys are pedigree power hitters that moved to a power-hitting stadium at Rogers Center. Donaldson and Edwin produced almost instantly once on a major league roster. In his first two full major league seasons, Edwin hit .276 and .289 with 33 and 25 homeruns respectively. In his first two full major league seasons, Donaldson hit .301 and .255 with 24 and 29 homeruns respectively. Well before Donaldson became a Blue Jay the talk was that if he got out of Oakland with their massive outfield and foul zone, he would be ripping it up. Bautista is a better comparison, but he makes his money with pure power. His batting average and OPS have been very consistent since he became an MLB regular in Pittsburgh. The only thing that has really improved with Bautista is Homeruns and corresponding RBIs.
There's nothing pessimistic about what I said, I said he was likely the best fielding second baseman in baseball and that it was unfortunate that he's a bad hitter and I wouldn't expect him to be anything more than what he has shown to because he's 28 years old going on his 4th season with the Jays. Sure he had a pretty good last month or so of the season last year, but he outright sucked at the plate come the playoffs which suggests to me he is still a very poor hitter since he wilted with a steady diet of good pitching (BA - .139 OBP -.162)
You can call me pessimistic, but your approach of saying everything the Jays do is the greatest thing since sliced bread and everyone is going to have career years as just as tiring. I hope Goins rips it up, because if he did, him or Travis could be a piece we could move at the deadline to fill some holes if they need filling. I would actually prefer that Goins hits well enough to make Travis expendable, but I just can't see that happening. I would prefer an average hitting 2nd base with great defense over a good hitting 2nd basement with mediocre to suspect defense any day of the week.