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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I don't think Edmonton Oilers Taylor Hall is a loser. Dude plays balls to the walls for a team that is awful for most of the season until they're pretty much eliminated. I don't blame him for stepping intensity down when his team is in 30th place despite him being a +. I don't see how he's different from a young Sakic or Iginla TBQH.
I do consider Justin Schultz a loser, because you can actively see the compete level fall off the map. That's different from Hall's season progression, which tends to be "play reckless" --> "play hard enough not to cost your team, but not reckless". Schultz's basically "show up to camp out of shape --> quit on every play". Another guy I consider a loser is Phil Kessel, again for how soft he plays that costs his team.
Losing doesn't breed losers. Not competing breeds losers. Losers do breed losing though.
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I disagree about Hall. He plays balls to the walls in situations he enjoys like when he's got the puck, etc. Watch his body language when they're losing and he's going off for a change, sitting on the bench after a goal against, etc the guy facts the wrong way after the chips are down. Fair or not, the guy is a leader on that team and gives up when the going gets tough. That's the problem