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Old 03-01-2016, 11:50 AM   #155
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How would you know if voter fraud is a problem without requiring some form of ID's?

There are ways to reduce it, like putting everyone on a list and crossing them out as their voter id cards come in, but that doesn't prevent someone from collecting or forging a bunch of different cards and voting multiple times that way.
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I’ve been tracking allegations of fraud for years now, including the fraud ID laws are designed to stop. In 2008, when the Supreme Court weighed in on voter ID, I looked at every single allegation put before the Court. And since then, I’ve been following reports wherever they crop up.

To be clear, I’m not just talking about prosecutions. I track any specific, credible allegation that someone may have pretended to be someone else at the polls, in any way that an ID law could fix.

So far, I’ve found about 31 different incidents (some of which involve multiple ballots) since 2000, anywhere in the country. If you want to check my work, you can read a comprehensive list of the incidents below.

To put this in perspective, the 31 incidents below come in the context of general, primary, special, and municipal elections from 2000 through 2014. In general and primary elections alone, more than 1 billion ballots were cast in that period.

Some of these 31 incidents have been thoroughly investigated (including some prosecutions). But many have not. Based on how other claims have turned out, I’d bet that some of the 31 will end up debunked: a problem with matching people from one big computer list to another, or a data entry error, or confusion between two different people with the same name, or someone signing in on the wrong line of a pollbook.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-ballots-cast/

If Voter Fraud existed it would be observable statistically.

The REAL problem with american elections is not voter fraud but ELECTIONS fraud:

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Wichita State University statistician Beth Clarkson requested Sedgwick County release election records for the recent election.

This week, Secretary of State Kris Kobach asked a judge to block that request.

Clarkson said the election results in some counties, including Johnson County, are impossible to audit.

During a celebration for the 95th anniversary of the 19th amendment, which gave women the right to vote, Clarkson said, “If we’re not being counted accurately, we’re losing our right to vote without even being aware of it.”

The mathematician wanted to examine the voting tapes after something didn’t add up.

Clarkson explained, “I don’t understand why those patterns are there, the patterns are very definitely real. But we don’t know what’s causing them or why they’re there. They do fit what would be expected if election fraud is occurring, and that’s very concerning.”

In Sedgwick County, the voting tapes record every stroke a voter makes on the machine.

The Election Commissioner there said the tapes are 385 feet long and are stored in 42 boxes.

However, in Johnson County, voting is done primarily on electronic machines where there is no automatic paper trail.

They’re machines which Clarkson said can be easily hacked.

“They’re basically saying you don’t need to look at these paper records, we can just trust the machine,” remarked Clarkson.
http://www.kshb.com/news/state/kansa...ts-dont-add-up
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