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Originally Posted by New Era
@TOfan
What point are you trying to make? Are you trying to say Drouin is getting a raw deal? Because using Kucherov and Paquette don't help your case. Are you saying these other guys have the same problems in their games that Drouin has, and has refused to work on? Again, using Kucherov and Paquette don't help your case. Drouin's lack of opportunity are on him. He was given a roster spot to work with and given top end talent to work with. He made the decision to ignore the demands of the coach and play the game his way. That's on him. That is something every team that is thinking of trading for him will have to consider as well.
When you assume that risk, you expect there to be a benefit to you as well. That will come in a reduced acquisition cost. Herman can talk all tough and everything, demanding a roster player, a prospect and a draft pick, but the reality is he has to find someone to give it to him. That is going to be a challenge, unless he is going to be happy with a package of something like Bollig (roster player), Elson (prospect), and a 7th (draft pick). He has to be reasonable or he's going to be sitting on Drouin for a while. So while he talks tough out of one side of his face he says something else out of the other; acknowledging he wants to move him sooner than later. Something is going to give, and I think Yzer,an is going to lose and lose hard on this one.
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Drouin's lack of opportunity are in part on him, sure. But they are not all on him. The Lightning organization has to take some responsibility here also. Fact of the matter is this is the same organization that selected him 3rd overall in one of the deepest drafts in recent history. Obviously they liked him quite a lot at some point. So what has happened since then? Has Drouin simply sh*t the bed, or is it at all conceivable that if he were in another organization he may already be solidified as a top 6 NHLer? This isn't on one side or the other, it's on both.
Have you ever been an employee in a place where things weren't going very well? was it your fault or your employers? Chances are, it was a little bit of both. Call it being a good 'fit' if you will, but I suspect Drouin would be highly coveted by many and clearly it is time for him to move on. He requested a trade last summer because he was unhappy with how his progression was going.
To get back to the original point; you're not going to get Drouin for a rental and a good prospect. Drouin is worth more than that. Yzerman is either going to get a young player who can help his team now, latest speculation I have heard that makes sense is Anaheim sending Hampus Lindholm or Sami Vatanen to the Lighting.
Further your second paragraph doesn't add up. Drouin has considerable upside and is only 20. That is among the most valuable assets there is in the NHL, and there will be a number of teams interested. Drouin isn't a toxic asset the Lightning need to get rid of, he has value. Things just didn't work out in Tampa and probably for many reasons. Look no further than the Turris trade. The Lightning aren't looking for simply dump him.
hypothetically if the Flames end up picking 8th or 9th overall and Drouin hasn't been moved would you make that trade?