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Old 02-17-2016, 10:06 PM   #252
powderjunkie
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Originally Posted by MarkGio View Post
No, but to uncover bias invalidates an objective analysis of the imperial evidence, as per academic, philosophical and scientific standards.

One can have a bias opinion. It would just be more questionable than an objective one.
This is sports, not academia...there is pretty much always some prejudice or bias among any fan (yes, even with say a random Rangers fan who pays no more attention to the Flames than any of the other WC clubs).

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen View Post
Sorry Cali Panthers Fan, are you aware the interview with the expert was taken days after the concussion?

Immediately after the collision: Wideman is aware, apologizing to the linesman. Is not required to undergo further concussion testing (maybe blame the Flames medical on this one).

Shortly after the incident: Wideman is answering media questions. Responds that it was just an accident. Was looking down, didn't see until last second.

Four days after the incident during a 35 minute FaceTime interview with the expert who will diagnosis him with a concussion: Vaguely remembers the incident, but can't piece together what happened.

A couple days later at the hearing: Responds that it was just an accident. Was looking down, didn't see until last second.
These 'stories' are not very different nor are they damning. It actually seems plausible, if not probable to me. If he stuck to the exact same talking point over and over and over people would be up in arms about him being coached/directed to say it and not being truthful.

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Originally Posted by browna View Post
In my opinion there was 3 parts. Each, when taken by itself, doesn't seem to warrant such severe a suspension but together, can be, given the timeline.

First, he followed through a bit more than a reactionary putting the hands up. Not intent to injury or premeditated that he's looking to clock a ref or get some aggression out...but still, just a hint of something more then putting hands up to defend himself. Subtle, but there.

Second, not looking back, as mentioned, or helping the ref up, as if it was a mistake or half mistake, even if a too little too late admission of responsibility.

Three, texting a teammate days later not really taking any responsibility and not happy with the fact he's facing this.
Point 1 is valid, the other 2 are about 99% irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Teroy View Post
He was angry and lashed out like a child.
OK, and then he just sits down like nothing signifcant happened, IMO appearing to be some combination of dazed, wincing/in pain and annoyed. We saw a child tantrum on the ice just a few days ago from Kadri. If Wideman was "angry and lashing out", would you not expect to see some other indication in his body language or facial expressions?
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