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Old 02-03-2016, 12:40 PM   #3397
HockeyIlliterate
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Originally Posted by MattyC View Post
You have some pretty brutal assumptions about poor people.
I don't think that the "planning for the future" is simply because they can. Rather, I think it is because they want to.

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So your argument is based in what you think a minimum wage job should be for vs what people who are living in those conditions are actually dealing with?
There are ways to address the situations in which people currently find themselves without having to adjust the minimum wage. Things like family planning, access to higher education, subsidized child care, and so on. I don't necessarily agree with all of these options, but I believe that they should be discussed as well, and that attention should not solely rest on wages.

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Originally Posted by MattyC View Post
So the education system works because 18 year olds are more articulate than 6 year olds? The bar is low, holy s***.
I have to say, your reply made me laugh.

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Originally Posted by ernie View Post
BUt they are and there is nothing that is going to change it any time soon.
I disagree. Family planning can address some of issues surrounding poverty and the fact that some of those in minimum wage jobs have children. Criminal justice reform can address some of the issues surrounding minimum wage-earning workers. Less restrictive zoning can address housing costs, which might help. The list goes on.

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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix View Post
The disdain and heartlessness some have towards the poor, disadvantaged and uneducated blows my mind.
And yet the soft bigotry of low expectations continues to march on...
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