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Old 02-01-2016, 08:07 PM   #1144
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And no, I'm not suggesting they would have won the treble in any case. But that would have turned into a world-class side in any case, that's for sure. They simply had too much talent in their system.
Simple as that then? Talent alone gets it done?

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man, that's an incredible insult to Ferguson. Different situations here ... Ferguson came to United in 86 and completely reshaped the youth setup - that's why the class of 92 happened and that's why Ferguson reaped the rewards later. Guardiola, like I said, just inherited a great squad with a young Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Eto'o and so on. How anyone would compare those two situations is beyond me, sorry.
The analogy is simple and an insult to no-one. If you want to claim that Guardiola lucked out by having a good crop of younguns come through then Fergie was blessed with similar good fortune having a once in a lifetime crop.

Because all I'm hearing is that having the players is enough. Management counts for little. Ask Moyes that when he inherited a team that cantered to a title.

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sure. Nobody is debating that. But let's not pretend he completely built that team because he surely didn't.
Forget about building the team. The f-a-c-t is that he got the team to perform. You just cannot argue with his dominance.
He did not inherit a dominating team. He created a dominating team.

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easy.
my guess is Guardiola will bring in 5-6 guys in the summer for a lot of money and the team is set.
Yeah. Easy. Like van Gaal easy?
Because it's as simple as shelling out coin for the personnel and you're "set"?
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