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Originally Posted by rubecube
If dude and other PUAs are able to make a living off of giving seminars where they basically teach other dudes methods of coercion and manipulation to get women to sleep with them, and their customers know ahead of time that this is Roosh's stance, I'd say it has a level of support that is unacceptable.
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PUA's in general are a bit of a complex subject, from where I sit. I think any sane person is probably immediately aghast at the suggestion that rape should be legal anywhere. However, the limits of what's ethical when it comes to "manipulating" women to have sex with you are pretty murky - for example, does lying about your income count? How about lying about whether you really like your date's glasses? Or deliberately trying to come off as knowing more about movies than you do? Or, female-specific, how about using eyeshadow? Obviously these are fine, so there's some amount of manipulation that qualifies.
You get some absolutely batcrap crazy positions taken on this stuff, too, which drives up cynicism... see: